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Paul
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I was reading Public Sex and I felt like it's a textbook example how sex is portrayed in BL. Just like your usual romance, there is emphasis on monogamous relationship and sex being an expression of love and a private affair, which is not wrong at all. But when BL characters deviate and express behaviors out of the norm, they get punished with drama, if not suffering.

I'm curious though if there are BLs featuring threesomes (sexual or otherwise) or even groups enjoying sex without the entanglement of a love triangle? Or if relationships form there's still mutual friendship. I've heard of Yarichin Bitch Club being an orgy though I'm unsure how romantic relationships are formed there, if any.

There's also prostitution and the porn industry as common dark tropes, though some seem a bit...lighter like Castle Mango or Heaven in the Hell. I'd love to see more stories where porn actors and sex workers are not slaves of the yakuza...

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Posted : 14/06/2020 4:08 pm
jess
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I haven't read past the first volume yet, but I don't think Yarichin is what you're looking for - there are definitely established couples in the group with some unhappiness about the lack of exclusivity and I suspect it'll end with the club more or less disbanded and everyone paired off.

I'd like to see more threesomes/groups too, bc every time I think that's where a story's headed, they invariably end up splitting off and someone ends up unhappy. There is Miecohouse Matsumoto's Boys Love! but I can't really think of any other titles off the top of my head.

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Posted : 14/06/2020 6:23 pm
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fried green fujoshi
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I think it's a pretty mixed bag. The old tropes are still going strong even though there's way more diversity now in plots and character types and whatnot. I think stuff that breaks away from the traditional romance plot of a couple finding a happy ending is going to be a bit more niche whether you're talking about BL or any other romance though.

Anyway here's a couple of 3P stories that I remember being fairly decent:

https://www.ebookrenta.com/renta/sc/frm/item/138733/

https://futekiya.com/sex-with-chika/  

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Posted : 14/06/2020 11:42 pm
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Paul
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Posted by: @friedgreenfujo

I think it's a pretty mixed bag. The old tropes are still going strong even though there's way more diversity now in plots and character types and whatnot.

One recent form I noticed is BLs set in bars. The bartender/owner becomes Cupid who pushes the MCs to stop fooling around and become a couple, even if it means two less customers for him. Some even portray bars and clubs as nothing but spots for cruising and assault - seme then saves the uke from harm (like "I Didn't Mean To Fall In Love")

Thanks for the recommendations, by the way! Was planning to read Sexy Rock but I keep on forgetting lol

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Posted : 15/06/2020 1:28 am
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Posted by: @jessinbooks

There is Miecohouse Matsumoto's Boys Love!

I second Boys Love by Meicohouse Matsumoto in it being a little more unusual than the typical BL threesome.

Posted by: @youngbluespring

I'd love to see more stories where porn actors and sex workers are not slaves of the yakuza...

You're My Sex Star (the chapters related to the title since there are some oneshots mixed in there) might be one that counts?

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Posted : 17/06/2020 3:12 pm
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Posted by: @blue
You're My Sex Star (the chapters related to the title since there are some oneshots mixed in there) might be one that counts?

Ooh I've checked this one, too bad it was not the full book.

There's also Do Something You Should Not Do Please - Chapter 1 featuring a salaryman with a kinky OnlyFans-ish live stream. But it was also a one-shot which sucks because I wanna know more lol

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Posted : 17/06/2020 5:57 pm
jess
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Posted by: @youngbluespring
 
There's also Do Something You Should Not Do Please - Chapter 1 featuring a salaryman with a kinky OnlyFans-ish live stream. But it was also a one-shot which sucks because I wanna know more lol

Oh man, same! I was so disappointed that story was only two chapters.

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Posted : 17/06/2020 6:09 pm
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MovingCastleofYaoi
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Posted by: @youngbluespring

Ooh I've checked this one, too bad it was not the full book.

I checked in with a friend who read the second volume in Japanese and it sounds like vol. 2 is going to be just about the first couple so woo!

 

Posted by: @jessinbooks

Oh man, same! I was so disappointed that story was only two chapters.

Yeah, I want more onlyfan like BL too

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Posted : 18/06/2020 4:04 am
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Phya
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Considering I love threesomes so much, I'm struggling to think of anything good aside from Boys Love (though I'm going to look into titles listed). Yarichin defjnatly not what you want. While characters do have people they like, sleep with others and does have an underlying arch, it's not meant to be taken seriously. I like that its upfront about that though.

I'm trying to think about bars now and my venture into discovering web tons helped me discover alot of big fat nopes on that front. And when I think of other stories it is just an agony aunt area.

In terms of the adult industry, porn seems to be well handled but prostitution not so much. That isn't male exclusive either. How many sons of prostitutes have you seen? Even in really good, well done series' I can't mention due to spoilers about a character, that trope can't be escaped from. The fact I've just read Yata and among doesn't help. From depecited as sluts, run down, lower class, life in shambles. There is very few where prostitutes are handled well.

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Posted : 23/06/2020 7:33 pm
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Chris
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Posted by: @blue

I second Boys Love by Meicohouse Matsumoto

Thirding. I didn't expect to like it at all due to the art style, but a friend insisted it was good so I gave it an honest shot. What do you know, polyamorous BL is possible! 

The only other plot-driven one I can think of is Canis: The Speaker, but it'll probably be a long time until that one is available in English.

On the sex-comedy side, I think Welcome to the BL Research Club has an ongoing threesome? I found it pretty forgettable though, so I might be wrong.

There's also Boyfriends on tapas which is just cute heartwarming fluff. 

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Posted : 08/07/2020 12:50 pm
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